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Deck "~ Phoenix of the Black Flame ~"

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~ Phoenix of the Black Flame ~
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Zero Phoenix
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parin
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Subject:    Posted: January 15, 2011 06:04 am

look i know its an average deck...but there are many draw backs...1st ,any water spell like spiral gate etc can be summoned...next using a card between power 3000 - 5000 can be summoned easily and most imp thing there are only 2 creatures who can break more than 1 shield...but how ever its a good deck.
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Subject:    Posted: January 15, 2011 06:23 am

na yup thx for changing my mind waileukwu......i will rate it
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Subject:    Posted: January 15, 2011 06:46 am

@rks :
Actually, building a deck specifically to counter this deck is very easy.
And generally, building a deck specifically to counter one specific deck is very easy.

To counter vise cyclone : just add 4x Terradragon Arque Delacerna (or the likes, u get the idea) to your deck.
To counter the field control : use floaters (Propeller Mutant, Hulcus, Qurian, etc), so you can maintain the card advantage

The thing that s not easy is: building a deck that can handle a wide range of deck types, especially those that are popular in the current meta game.

@parin :
This is a TOTAL CONTROL DECK.
All those small creatures are not supposed to attack shields. Even Genji, it s only used as finisher, or to attack creatures, or just to clear the way for Phoenix.
Only Zero Phoenix is supposed to attack shields.
Attacking shields with creatures other than Zero Phoenix will only give your opponent more resource in hand, and this deck absolutely DOESN'T WANT IT.
If you think that those small creatures are for attacking shields, then you don't know what s the exact purpose of this deck.

And... what? spiral gate? so what?
If opponent use spiral gate, that means wasting 1 for 0, and even better, I can re-use marshall touch or any creatures returned this way.
Or another use... The opponent returns Zero Phoenix with Spiral Gate? MY PLEASURE!

And I already said non-blocker creatures in range 3000+ are the weakness of marshall touch, but if they re tapped, we can just ram it with Masato (5000).
For power 6000+ , Stagrandu is available.
Anyway, most annoying key threats in the current meta game have 1000-2000 power. Cocco Lupia, Dark Lupia, Maxval, Slayers, Sla-cker (Slayer-Blocker), etc ...

@ waileukwu :
Really thanks for all the comments and compliments... >///<
Glad to know that someone understand this game very well
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Subject:    Posted: January 15, 2011 07:05 am

Parin, if you only look on the quantity of the beaters on the deck, then you clearly don't understand the deck.

Only 2 creatures that can breaks more than 1 shield?
You mean only 2 Genji?
I said Genji is not here to attack shields. He is just another finisher and control tool.
This deck IS CONTROL DECK, thus totally different with RUSH.

Rush deck attempts to gain victory ASAP, but in a very risky way.
This deck attempts to gain victory slowly, but in a very sure way.
Rush deck must face the fear of shield triggers.
This deck does not fear shield triggers at all. (attacking shields only with Zero Phoenix)

Zero Phoenix BURNS 2 shields per turn.
Shield burn is much more important here.
It gives the opponent ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE of activating shield trigger.
It is that broken.
It is the reason why Bolmeteus Sapphire Dragon got banned.


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MEH, I should move to YuGiOh, where people understand the game and the concept of TCG very well ...
Now waiting for the release of "YGO WC2011 - Over The Nexus"
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Subject:    Posted: January 15, 2011 12:05 pm


quote from mysticswordsman:

@rks :
Actually, building a deck specifically to counter this deck is very easy.
And generally, building a deck specifically to counter one specific deck is very easy.

Eh, I'd like a deck that can counter this deck and still work well against other decks.


quote from mysticswordsman:

The thing that s not easy is: building a deck that can handle a wide range of deck types, especially those that are popular in the current meta game.

That's more what I'm aiming for.

And as for YuGiOh, it's filled to the brim with useless cards. And it has its noobs too.
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Subject:    Posted: January 15, 2011 04:19 pm


quote from rks_blitzer:

Eh, I'd like a deck that can counter this deck and still work well against other decks.


Now that is hard.

If you are actually thinking about how to specifically counter this deck, then that means this deck is powerful enough to be a threat in the current meta.
Haha, so Marshall Touch brings a new threat in DM world, just like how Gladiator Beast did in YuGiOh.
GB is a consistent and versatile control cards, and so does Marshall Touch in this matter.

A popular and best type of GB was Rescue-GB.
Now, I d like to call this combo MT-Vise (Marshall Touch + Vise Cyclone)


quote from rks_blitzer:

That's more what I'm aiming for.

And as for YuGiOh, it's filled to the brim with useless cards. And it has its noobs too.


Super true. I d say 90% of all cards released are all useless.
But well, at least more people understand the game.
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Subject:    Posted: January 16, 2011 02:49 am

@ mysticswordsman: Glad to see someone who are constructing decks right.
And yes, it is hard to get a perfect deck that would counter this and still be good against other decks. The only idea that I have now other than mass discarding deck types like the one Nerafim constructed with perfection involves mass grave evolutions along with something like yata izuna and big evil ultimate evolutions of Skeleton Moon and the other Moon (the one that revives all grave creatures for both players, and if you have a bunch of creatures discarded, that = great news for that ultimate evolution) or extreme water or origin rush with plenty of return to hand creatures and draws (though these two deck types does rather vulnerable to heavy early discards, just depends on who is faster in spamming discard/draws). Also might be vulnerable to kirino giant X veteran combo, but that heavily depends on luck.


@parin: right, glad to convince you. And just as mysticswordsman explained, normal cards out there are just for the . The juice of it is control of another's hand and the battle-zone. Hand through cyclone vise+jenny, field through marshal touch then hope to last until you get the perfect opportunity to burn shields. If all goes according to plan, it is kinda hard to lose since it gets all grounds covered.

Now, this deck got me wondering, if you pitch these two decks together, who would come out triumphant?
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Subject:    Posted: January 26, 2011 05:08 am

lol i have already voted the deck but i think that if i vote 5 for one time is not sufficient ..........
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Subject:    Posted: January 29, 2011 10:47 am

Perhaps you could try Hundred-Strike Doll Magnum to counter those creatures that are put into the battle zone when discarded?
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Subject: whaaaaat?   Posted: April 15, 2011 07:11 am

no wait SORRY? when i saw zero phoenix and u described it as like it was the only trump card, i knew this deck was screwed. but after looking at the other cards (no, actually, only at ur 2 biggie dragons) i then upped my vote for this deck. you cannot seriously rely on only zero phoenix right? ... so a 3/5 then. though using the jenny combo can be alternated with something else.
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