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juncombo0 · **Subject:** **Posted:** November 1, 2013 12:35 am

@ stellar , if you think that people are rating this deck 5 only bcoz its mine then i guess you should atleast tell that why this deck deserves 4 not 5? Mind sharing your reason?

the_stellar · **Subject:** **Posted:** November 1, 2013 05:31 am

ok,i will explain why this deck deserves 4(only because of its idea).yes,it's a rush deck(not a normal one,but still a rush deck) so you will have some difficulties against blockers decks and shield triggers decks.if you ask me i personally think it's just a good deck,if you want to improve it maybe some better cross gears will fit really well since most of your creatures don't have abilities.
most of people gave you 5 because of 2 reasons:
1.your deck was rated with 5 at the begin and they were afraid to destroy your rating.
2.you are an admin and comments like syed's "einstein of duel masters" please guys have a personality!yes juncombo you are a real good players,one of the best but this doesn't mean this deck is perfection(5=perfection).guys please,this is not lugia's legion deck this is a rush deck based on a pretty good idea but it has its weakness and there are many weaknesses since it's a rush deck which contains no special creatures.

juncombo0 · **Subject:** **Posted:** November 1, 2013 06:48 am

Ok , i guess you don't know the effectiveness of this deck,

1.It doesn't need cross gears at all.
2.Blockers deck? can you tell me how many people these days use that much blockers? Heaven's gate? small blockers? almost no one. And Obviously a rush deck's counter is always a good blocking deck so saying that it will face difficulty against blockers is not a valid reason at all.EVERY deck has a counter.
3. Shield triggers? this deck can summon so many creatures in one turn that even if some dies it doesn't matter.I have played and faced super flaming hell scrapper and other st's like that.
4.A 5 on this deck has nothing to do with me being admin or something like that JUST bcoz YOU think it don't deserve a 5 doesn't mean you are right.
5.And if you are talking about Lugia's Legion than i can tell you thousands weakness in that deck and that deck is luck based as well if you don't get a right hand it won't work. Why i know that? bcoz i have played against that deck and defeated it with simplest rush decks.
6.It has weaknesses? EVERY deck has weaknesses. and it don't need any special creature at all.

In the end i will just say its your choice wheter to give it a 1 or 2 ... 5 . Just bcoz you don't like it doesn't mean its not good or not something extraordinary. People have used it and they have seen its usefulness that's why they gave 5. Syed gave vote AFTER playing many duels with this deck.

Anyways you gave your reason that's all that matters to me.

the_stellar · **Subject:** **Posted:** November 1, 2013 07:01 am

Don't miss the point:it's a rush deck,yes you can win but it's based on luck,ok now you are going to tell me "every deck is based on luck at some procent".rush decks has always been the EASY way you can duel.same fact in TCG same in OCG.when you are out of inspiration and you want a deck which may guarantee you the win,you create a rush deck based on some idea(i don't contest the idea of this deck is really original,which is why i rated it with a 4) and bingo you have a deck.you might with idk,let's say 60-70% of matches but man,there is nothing that makes you love this game in rush decks. i'm sry i had to tell this not only because of this deck but because of the majority of people who are using a rush deck.

dawriterman · **Subject:** Rage comment Reply **Posted:** November 1, 2013 07:07 am

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you will have some difficulties against blockers decks and shield triggers decks.if you ask me i personally think it's just a good deck,if you want to improve it maybe some better cross gears will fit really well since most of your creatures don't have abilities.

Crossgears? Seriously? In a vanilla deck, when you include crossgears, you can finally say to yourself, "Now that'a a real screwup"! And of course the deck won't fare well against blockers. For that matter, no rush fares well against blockers. A Vanilla rush has an advantage though, in that it can summon LOTS of creatures, QUICKLY.

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you are an admin and comments like syed's "einstein of duel masters" please guys have a personality!yes juncombo you are a real good players,one of the best but this doesn't mean this deck is perfection(5=perfection).guys please,this is not lugia's legion deck this is a rush deck based on a pretty good idea but it has its weakness and there are many weaknesses since it's a rush deck which contains no special creatures.

First of all, he is a HERALD, not an ADMIN. Admin is Clemente Zamoora. Get your facts right. Next, nobody cares if someone is a herald or not. Most of the good players either give a 5 or a 1, or don't rate at all, instead choosing to give comments to better the deck. Also, if we do give a 4 or 3, we CLEARLY STATE THE REASON AND GIVE SUGGESTIONS TO IMPROVE THE DECK. We don't give Lame reasons. No deck is perfect. However, when you see innovative ideas executed well, you should appreciate it rather than trying to show that it's a bad deck.

In the end, giving a 4 or a 5 or 1,2,3 is entirely up to you. However, comparing a deck to another completely different one wastes everyone's time. If you state reasons like, "This deck could be better with Parlock" or "I feel that X card can be included", no one will say anything, rather they will feel happy you gave the time. But unnecessary comments are not welcome AT ALL.

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ok,i will explain why this deck deserves 4(only because of its idea)

Well, I just took apart your explanation. So I guess you know now why the deck deserves 5.

juncombo0 · **Subject:** **Posted:** November 1, 2013 07:08 am

Personally i don't like rush decks as well. But you said "this is not lugia's legion deck" so i will say NO deck in dm is perfect every deck has weaknesses and giving a 5 doesn't mean its a perfect deck it has different meaning for some people they give 5 bcoz they win mostly with the deck , some gives bcoz the progression is good for me i give 5 when the idea of deck is something new and unique and specially when it uses something which is ignored. And yes i know that new players Not the majority of players all the good players/experienced players/old players don't use rush decks. And luck is a part of game not the deck. And there is nothing wrong if you say you don't like rush decks OR you don't think this deck deserves a 5. But if you say that Lugia's Legion or anyother deck is perfect than that is Totally wrong. i hope you get my point.

dawriterman · **Subject:** Rage comment Reply 2 **Posted:** November 1, 2013 07:13 am

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Don't miss the point:it's a rush deck,yes you can win but it's based on luck,ok now you are going to tell me "every deck is based on luck at some procent".rush decks has always been the EASY way you can duel.same fact in TCG same in OCG.when you are out of inspiration and you want a deck which may guarantee you the win,you create a rush deck based on some idea(i don't contest the idea of this deck is really original,which is why i rated it with a 4) and bingo you have a deck.you might with idk,let's say 60-70% of matches but man,there is nothing that makes you love this game in rush decks. i'm sry i had to tell this not only because of this deck but because of the majority of people who are using a rush deck.

Yes, you are right. No experienced player likes to use Rush. However, that doesn't take merit away from the deck. And as you are a TCG player, never seen you playing OCG, I don't think you know that OCG rushes are not so easy to make due to the wide range of cards available. You bring a TCG rush against a normal OCG deck, and the TCG rush will lose 99% of the time. The point is, in OCG your deck has to be GOOD to win, just being a rush won't guarantee a win even against a slow deck. And not really many people use rush, but that shouldn't stop the deck from getting a DotW. Why, my own deck Lightning Speed got a DotW with more than 15 ratings...People like rush, because it is good for a quick duel, nothing more nothing less.

By the way, you still don't give a valid reason, so I suggest you stop arguing

stiefelolm · **Subject:** **Posted:** November 8, 2013 11:43 am

Nice Idea, Nice deck.
Do you know newman from dmr 08? he is a colorless 4 mana- 6000 Creature.

Maybe you could include him because he is reduced in Cost in that deck and offers high power, you can play him in the 2nd turn then.

juncombo0 · **Subject:** **Posted:** November 8, 2013 10:22 pm

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Nice Idea, Nice deck.
Do you know newman from dmr 08? he is a colorless 4 mana- 6000 Creature.

Maybe you could include him because he is reduced in Cost in that deck and offers high power, you can play him in the 2nd turn then

I have added Noumen and i have also added Breaking Right Smith just for more power. Thanks for your suggestion.

waileukwu · **Subject:** oh hey look at this :D **Posted:** November 13, 2013 10:03 pm

ADVANTAGES:

1. All creatures cost 3 or less so they are very easy to summon.
2. The main prob which a rush deck usually face is draw but this deck have plenty of draw.
3. Even if your creatures gets destroyed still you can summon enough of them in 1 turn.

1) cost 3 or less? u mean with wasshoi in bz only right? though could be hard to play against mass removal based on cost.
2) which in turn either gives ur op plenty of draw or gets inhibited by quick removals.
3) true, the greatest strength of a rush like this is that you can replentish ur bz quickly until your deck runs dry.

DISADVANTAGES:

1. There are no powerful creatures in this deck .
2. No resistance to your opponent at all , as there is no removal or discarder .

1) never thought of this, but vanilla rush do offer more power in a way though it would be utterly inhibited by a nariel...i mean is there anything that can stop a nariel from ruining this deck?
2) best defense is offense, no?

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